Tuesday, September 27, 2016

German quality up from Japanese price value eroding Club Lexus Forums

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German quality price increase from Japanese Insurrection is the eroded value.
German quality price increase from Japanese Insurrection is the eroded value.
To make a long story short this is how things were -German car lowest prices -Japense -Japanese car offering price less the lowest Acura price.
Today, with the Germans as entering new markets and apparently offering aggressive prices in some cases and with Japanese brands rising prices, is the degradation pathway valuable prizes for Japanese brands, I noticed in the past, the price differences between the Germans and the Japanese Lexus was mainly 8-10k now, in many cases, the 2k-5k.
Many reasoning for buying Japanese wasn t only for lower prices, but quality bc well in surveys, we saw German quality improvement and in some cases, Japanese quality worse Lexus had problems and they finally started and directed Acura and Infiniti average plunged.
If the quality of the Japanese brand is average and the German quality is better or, what it means for Inifiniti Lexus Acura.



The new V-6 TSX was the price to start 35k It IS 350 335 silver Its 40k loaded Fwd, A V-6 with less power and a speed of 5 Where is the value.
I predicted in recent years hit AUDI We see their sales increase slowly but surely they become 4th in sales in America.
Lexus seems to have broken the barrier seems to be worth the money even if it costs more or about the same price as the Germans They should really keep quality tops and they will have more enroach turf Germans models F, we cut They speak of hybrids offer but outside the new RX and HS, sales are paltry.
That what people prefer to simply do you buy the German car if the quality is negligible and the price is negligible.
I think in the past, the Japanese were buying like buying a Mercedes or BMW Buy fake ago lexus 20 years does not mean the same thing as buying a Lexus now in the past you have bought under what i call the reasoning hyundai in short, buying a reliable car full of technology that rivals near the German competitors and since they throw in a generous price advantage, it was obvious to buy Japanese This was the only way people would consider even Infiniti Lexus or Acura for that matter and the horrible reliability of Mercedes when he was just perfect timing for Lexus.
Fast forward to today, and Lexus is considered equal at least to the United States in many senses to Mercedes in terms of prestige and class of technology is now in direct competition, and precision engineering German can now be exceeded therefore, lexus believes it can charge the same premium Germans have been charging consumers from the beginning, that their cars are now in the same league.



So while the price lexus may be progressing slowly in Mercedes, this is because they are now treated almost equal except in the treatment Now you buy the Lexus nameplate.
I think Lexus is to let a little fame go to their head in this competitive market they need to really step to stay ahead of the German cars have always been admired by many of us because of their performance , handling and build quality but when they left the reputation goto their head, they lost massive customers I think for a while Mercedes and BMW had an old GM attitude we build, they always thought they buy sell cars based Thier reputation regardless of the poor reliability and sometimes poor service customers invaded Roma show Lexus and Lexus now explode Lexus is some cases, feels like it could be in a crossroads fight for vale or continue selling on the perception of its quality forever, I think if the Germans continue to refine their vehicul es interms of reliability then the price would seem difficult to some of us Japanese buyers the issue with German cars is that they push the cars to have all the state of the art technology nologies that have few bugs They are the first to bring much of the new technology on the market, but because this technology is in its infancy its problems and it is easy to come Jpanese with a system a few years later is reliable and easier use.
To make a long story short this is how things were -German car lowest prices -Japense -Japanese car offering price less the lowest Acura price.
Do people prefer to just buy the German car if the quality is negligible and the price is negligible.
To some extent this is already happening, IMO and the pressure that Lexus, MB, BMW and Audi have each other today in the areas of engine, suspension, technology, quality, reliability , luxury features, style, service, etc. forced all of them to meet these competitors narrow the differences in price.


I thought Lexus has always tried to fix the price of the luxury car market is what Nintendo has done with games and they are prosecuted for it A group of Japanese companies did the same here in the 80s and 90 and s.
We can discuss and argue all kinds of auto and quality reasons for price differences, but much of it comes in the wake of the international fluctuating currency and the value of the dollar against the German mark and Japanese yen Although vehicles with German and Japanese nameplates were built here in the US plants, with US workforce numbers are their prices on the US market is still set by the managers return buisness companies in their countries originally, they look at a number of things, of course, in putting New-car prices, including the application of the proposed offer, but an important factor is how the dollar is trading against the yen on Mark global stock markets as we pay for our new cars here, of course, with uS dollars, a weak dollar and declining, compared to the trademark or Yen means that each dollar will be worth less in comparison, then, as it will then take more of them to cover the value of the new car, the price will be higher, in US dollars Conversely, when the dollar rises value against the mark or the yen, it takes less of them to cover the price of the new German Japanese cars here at home and, of course, the dollar often fluctuates against the mark and the yen at different rates, so German and Japanese new car prices, in US dollars, do not always take the same trends.
Another factor that is often ignored is the very high cost of labor in German factories, among the highest in the world, yes, often more than UAW plants here at home The high cost of labor alone, Germany was one of the major factors of the high prices of their Audi vehicles finally relented on the TT production, for example, in German factories and moved production of the TT out of the country to Hungary and, of course, Mercedes had already relatively low cost, non-UAW ML plant in Alabama.
We can discuss and argue all kinds of auto and quality reasons for price differences, but much of it comes in the wake of the international fluctuating currency and the value of the dollar against the German mark and Japanese yen Although vehicles with German and Japanese nameplates were built here in the US plants, with US workforce numbers are their prices on the US market is still set by the managers return buisness companies in their countries originally, they look at a number of things, of course, in putting New-car prices, including the application of the proposed offer, but an important factor is how the dollar is trading against the yen on Mark global stock markets as we pay for our new cars here, of course, with uS dollars, a weak dollar and declining, compared to the trademark or Yen means that each dollar will be worth less in comparison, then, as it will then take more of them to cover the value of the new car, the price will be higher, in US dollars Conversely, when the dollar rises value against the mark or the yen, it takes less of them to cover the price of the new German Japanese cars here at home and, of course, the dollar often fluctuates against the mark and the yen at different rates, so German and Japanese new car prices, in US dollars, do not always take the same trends.
Another factor that is often ignored is the very high cost of labor in German factories, among the highest in the world, yes, often more than UAW plants here at home The high cost of labor alone, Germany was one of the major factors of the high prices of their Audi vehicles finally relented on the TT production, for example, in German factories and moved production of the TT out of the country to Hungary and, of course, Mercedes had already relatively low cost, non-UAW ML plant in Alabama.



Good afternoon, but what do you think consumers will be the two main Japanese brands selling points is better, the other is the highest value that Lexus stands almost on its own here If neither is as strong that before the Germans erode their territory.
We Hyundai and Americans improve as well.
Will there be a shift in sales quickly with level 2 brands I think so.


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