AMERICAN vs. UK Supermarkets
Guest Post by Frugal, Iva is a writer for TotallyMoney which is a website that allows you to compare loans for people with bad credit and cards for bad credit also manages a popular personal finance blog where she shares ideas and advice moneysaving frugal.
For years and years it was considered un-American to buy a car or truck that had not been made by a leading US manufacturer  Whether Ford, General Motors and Dodge, you'd better have had one of those vehicles parked in your driveway, or you weren t doing your civic duty.
All around the gas crisis and energy in 1973, and again during the energy crisis in 1979, it became suddenly much to buy foreign cars in particular Japanese cars because of their consumption fuel remarkably better, and their longer life.
Since it seems that US automakers have played up the catch and lately, Â it seems that the distance in popularity among Japanese cars and American is as great as it was already This is probably due to Thea that gas prices have increased dramatically, foreign automakers in particular Japanese cars have introduced a myriad OFA gas saving measures, Â with hybrid technology being the most popular.
All that said, I wanted to see how big the difference in fuel consumption is really among the five most fuel efficient American cars against top fuel efficient top five most efficient Japanese cars.
After doing some math, I thought the average American cars get five first April 27 mpg city and 33 mpg on the highway 2, while the average of the top five Japanese cars get 46 mpg city and 2 49 mpg on the highway  This equates to a 68 better gas mileage in the city and 48 better gas mileage on the road for Japanese cars.
The most obvious cause of the difference is due to the fact there are three hybrid cars included in the Japanese list while there is only one hybrid car on the US list.
While certainly not fuel consumption isn the only indicator as to why some cars are selling better than others, I do not think you can discount the fact of Japanese cars tend to get much better gas mileage than their American counterparts watching the dramatic increase in sales of Japanese cars against an equally dramatic fall in sales of American cars.
I think this argument is sad As for fuel economy, the year is now 2009, and there are fuel efficient models ever corporate thinking to purchase domestic or foreign you can choose from a wide range of fuel friendly cars Ironically, GM manufactures more fuel-efficient models cars by volume of each company on earth, and with more variations in fuel consumption guys around since the mid 2000 so your argument 8-10 car has very large holes in it My 2006 Mustang sports car spirit makes you more than 20 on average, low, wind at 17 miles per gallon city, and generally more 27 miles per gallon highway I know this because I drove from Houston, Texas to San Diego, California and has to fill about 4 times on the way is unreasonable, is good for a car that CUL also fires to be hahahaha cool and it's true for many American mood cold engines that are not even built as flex fuel or hybrid cars therfore Secure, friendly fuel science over a well-ventilated juggernaut and you have an instant update with far less engine wear over time Japanese cars are infact, hot temper engines with low breathing environment, which contributes to issues of life, usually in the radiator department, if you hear a complaint owner of the Japanese car sound their car stalled out and warm American cars running are worth their weight in gold if you make a smart comparison shopping Ford built about 80 all the national parties, so you can count on hardened steel reinforcement and top ranked do not argue with me on this search tensile test for metals in other countries such as China and Japan and you will be depressed on much lower and a lower quality of metals to save a dollar more this creates a faster turnaround replacement time if anything goes, because the pieces are saying that American cars are poorly designed is beyond lie, and can be used as did a large number of intellectual property sold to the American car signatories are a much of what fuels even foreign car creation in the first place parts are generally better manufacturing jobs in the states too if you want to compare the health of a foreign car on a base part of the piece and the literal engineering, you d be smarter to do with BMW Japanese have done a great job using a sense logiqu e if-smaller, lighter, cheaper cars built, with funny electrical improvements treats the dashboard, and good fuel economy because the car weighs one ounce, and also the Mac equivalent car with colors and shapes for Americans to have a crisis you reality is that it is a friendly face to wear as a car producer, and most Americans, who can not even change a tire, as their small, quiet unpretentious cars, and well made and published on the marketing Similarly, the reality is for Americans who want to stop this belief that the US auto industry can not make good cars engineering is solid and if you are not lazy and choose a iAd Myr cars on the road and watch their complete specifications, you will see that this is true all boils down to having us need to be honest with ourselves and buying a car based on our own preferences without hype around Japanese cars are better, or buy American or that you are not American, because we are killing our industry with this attitude both countries are part of the fantastic vehicles and some shit relatively speaking do your homework and buy intelligently, I would t swap my Mustang for Honda in a thousand years, and it costs less brand new and get the same gas mileage in the upper speed range better than my friends who have driven along beside me in their brand new Honda s on road trips on the side of the coin, I would buy a Honda in a second on the development, because I can not stand the wheel base in this thing or concept of the body line.
It's time to grow up and become real consumers buy based on reality.
I agree with you, I think you are a few people who truly understand the situation, the only Japanese cars better fuel economy and a reliable engine that you can see the reports of cars are recalled for repair cars US are built well im talking about family cars, not muscles, they are impressive and they engine greatly improved from 80 to 90, lets put a case like the development Ford, an incredible car US automakers have made many errors, but it's just stupid what people say that American cars are bad construction.
Well, how many old American cars do you see in the roads survive still not that much I live in Virginia and is considered one of the richest states in the United States, I'm on the daily the road and I see many older Japanese cars and many new American cars this means that in general, Japanese cars survive much longer than American cars, too, I know a lot of pro-US commentators cars here in this haven forum not seen what the rest of the world are driving taxis used only Asia, the largest continent and most of the assembled people are Toyota so why buy American cars, I know the Americans that pride for their country, but if they are really smart as they say they are, then they should go to the MUCH better Japanese cars.
People should consider comparing US vs Japanese cars not only in the US but around the world If you do a survey on how many people choose American cars on Japanese cars, it will be so embarrassing for the United -United.
This comparison is low mainly because the vehicles you've selected form the American side had only a hybrid All the Japanese cars that you chose were hybrids You can not compare two different powertrains, you should have compared the versions gas only Japanese cars I think if you did that you see there is not much of a difference between them after I think you'll see that chevys get good gas mileage and better performance than for their comptetitors intance cobalt SS gets 30 miles per gallon on the highway and 260 horsepower civic power if only has 197 horsepower and has the same size engine and gets 29 miles per gallon How chevy can make a car with better performance and better gas mileage I also remind you that cobalt a bat turbocharger.
Q. If you go to a car show, how many people are drewling on an American classic, and how eyeing My foreign brother brands drove a Chevrolet Impala 3 4 liter v6 on many trips, he earned a remarkable 34 mph right along with an impressive 36 mph on some occasions How many Toyota vehicles in this size and power range get these figures I owned a '93 Oldsmobile 88 with v6 3 8 liters and knocked a 33 steady mpg when driving highway How many Japanese and Korean manufactures in this catagory weight and power become that kind of mileage comfort goes without saying.
The truth is anonymous, your an apartment on the dumb ass, which is one way how old American cars you see on the streets survive today not many Iâ m on the daily road and I see a lot older Japanese cars and many new American cars this means that in general, Japanese cars survive much longer than American cars honestly, it's the dumbest shit I've ever heard someone say, and ive fell on some dumb ass in my time the truth is, I do not give a shit what few car you buy, but when people start bashing US automakers, saying foreign cars are better than cars American and American cars are crap, is when I have a problem If you do a survey on how many people will choose American cars Japanese cars are about, it will be so embarrassing for the United States.
Ita S CERTAINLY TRUE DONA T probley hate your right, it is called a misconception that your moron Hay, I have a survey that would agree that if the Japanese automakers have a dick Anonymous would Deepthroating now a vote already said yes.
The fact is American cars last longer than Japanese cars, I see many more American cars on the road that Japanese cars Japanese cars are so much quoted, it is sad that they don t get better gas mileage and everyone speaks Japanese hybrids, they don t tell you that American cars were hybrids in the 1990 LONG bEFORE JAPANESE cars not to mention a Toyota truck s 1980-1990 would last about 10-15 years before frames rusting in half and the truck would break literally two also, American cars were doing just as good and even better gas mileage for decades seems everyone has forgotten all the 41 mpg Dodge Aries and Plymouth Reliants all Pontiac Sunbirds, Chevy Chevette, Ford Pinto, Ford Fiestas, etc. and for that matter what about the old 1976 Dodge Dart light and dusters, with an inclination of six and 4-speed overdrive These cars were reported to get 30 mpg and many of them are still on the road today ' hui how about all Ford Falcons with 6 cylinders, or Chevy Novas, Plymouth Valiants, way back in the 1960s the problem is that most people who say Japanese cars get better gas consumption are Raving indoctrinated biased, comparing the Japanese small cars like the Honda Civic, with a large Chevy Impala or Ford Crown Vic, or even a Cadillac or Chrysler Imperial HIGHLY UNFAIR They never compare a Toyota Corolla in a Dodge Aries, or a Honda Civic Plymouth Horizon Compare the same year Honda Civic in a Dodge Aries and see Aries is just as good or even better mileage than the Honda, and is pleased s car more comfortable My sister and her family had a Honda Civic, 1973, and made a trip of 600 miles in this thing with their three children, and they said it was the biggest mistake of their lives, they said they were miserable in this small shoebox so do not tell me Japanese cars last longer and get better gas mileage because it is a bunch of crap and lots of brainwashing nonsense of the automotive media types would have us all believe, but if you compare apples to apples and oranges to oranges, you will see American cars have always had the upper hand even today, not to mention most of the technology in cars Japanese today CAM AMERICAN CARS Dodge had such an electric minivan while 1995 called TEVan was done for commerce was not all-electric hybrid, and had leadership assisted, and even air conditioning and was back in 1995, which was a Japanese car electric car or even a hybrid in the 1990s.
Also don t forget the Dodge Daytonas, Spirit RT, Shelbys and Dodge Omni GLH SHBG, these cars were know to be small fastest cars on the road back in the 1980s his 1990 Daytona IROC or would Spirti RT 0-60 about 5 in 8 seconds or sedan 4 door FASTEST the world in 1991 and the Dodge Daytona IROC and RT, and they are still 25-30 MPG a turbochaged February 2 to 2 5 4-cylinder Dodge was even a version of race 2 2 which has 425 HP 4 dE A BOTTLE and many of these cars are still a road today so no Japanese car could touch the cars to time, not to mention where do you think that Japanese automakers have the idea and technology for their small turbocharged engines later so basically, a Japanese car is just a cheap imitation of an American car anyway.
I 1967 Oldsmobile 442 thats nothing new condition was made to what I rebuilt the engine once, just to keep the mint that I had many other cars like Buicks, Chevys, Acura, Nissan Honda, Jeep, Jaguar, Infiniti and Acura Squeeks constantly whatever we fix one thing and another thing is the foreign coins have cost us thousands v6 and it's only gets 20 mpg, the worst mileage of all cars I've never had except Olds 442 Nissan had a steering problem and sent my sister on the road and it got totaled Jaguar was and is replaced engine and transmission replaced 6 times the Infiniti recently rusty far too much for me to face it was a 97 he us many problems the Jeep had two transmission replacements over the 12 years we have, for a total of 600 for two cheap one Chevrolets needed a joint cula ess Honda fell apart and I sold the engine to 300 dollars the only cars I've never had a problem was Buicks ha I have 2 and I love them.
Buick is also the number one luxury car in America and number one in sales in Japan haha lacrosse There is another car in my opinion even better than the only other vehicle they have is a cross- over, the Enclave has been classified by some various major players in the automotive industry as the best looking luxury crossover Not to mention the Chevy Volt, hybrid or Ford fusion, or the hybrid Malibu that highway 40 or more mpg Turbo diesel engines are the best of all fuel savers, however, making it a good choice as a Volkswagen.
I can not believe that someone would try to compare fuel consumption rated in the 80s 90s when we all know that this information formula was far from realistic no air, a passenger not so cargo so that 25-30 mpg is more like 20-25 Even when I look at the MPG those cars they declare 19 city 24 hwy therefore do not know where these come s And yes we know all automakers Americans had electric cars, but killed EV1 that because of greed over everything else, even the fellow man that is why buy Japanese because they have an ability to look at the big picture of pollution, consumption oil etc. US automakers are to the bandwagon because they are forced to see and now GM doesn t care in the US, only what gets them there million dollar house and 70 000 cars buy many a ing that Honda cars and never had any major problems with any of them My current 03 Acura RSX 155,000 miles and the only problem outside of brake pads, tires etc was a clutch change last week show me an American car t hat has no problem, but my general maint prelude before only had a water pump change and that was more than 250,000 miles Nobody doubts artistic design classic muscle cars the reason people drooling over them at a car show is because there numbers are few, this is what makes them where tons on the road, you would not have to go to a car show to see buy.
I think a lot of Americans just do not understand how their cars are even foreign brands sell US versions of their vehicles in the United States are extremely inefficient because they are cheaper and the United States accepts .
I lived in the UK until I was 16 and have been in the US for over 7 years old when I left the UK, the average car does 50mpg about, I returned for a holiday this Christmas and my brothers skoda fabia around 60-65mpg these are just ordinary cars, not hybrids, no flashy technology Everybody pushes the latter, it is the 50mpg standard.
It angers me back here in the United States we are talking about 35mpg as a revolutionary figure Furthermore, a hybrid car that can get 40-45mpg If a regular car can already 60-65mpg do it then I would say that these hybrid cars are complete failures.
America must stop being so selfish, start using the appropriate engine stop driving huge trucks and SUVs, learning to use the roundabouts and stop using traffic lights at each junction causing pollutants idle and start setting real goals for the prevention of traffic pollution This hybrid technology conference makes me sick if I can by a regular car that does 65mpg im not buy a hybrid car that is 40mpg.
Do you guys get AMERICA suck you soo much as automoblies Japanese imports will still be the best better fuel consumption, improved reliability, better quality, better everything sucky ass lazy americans Oh yeah and stop with technology in cars and this and fancy things and everything inside, the United States, would you guys think so sux ass kicking in Japan because they fear fighting outside, exterior, gas, which, not a beast, Microsoft, iPod bologna GO JAPAN.
What in the world and each country has its prodcuts crappy and each country has its good priducts as so many people think that Toyota is a very good good looking car with all the problems, after that I think to say I prefer to buy American because I can not face the Japanese shit debate is better than bullshit American crap because I know that nobody is perfect after all that I see a lot of old American cars like many old Japanese cars, but their is a hell lot more old American cars becasue they made cars since the beginning as Americans, we are the ones that brought Japan its automotive industry and we are the ones who change our jobs in Japan a long time ago I said that they are both have a reputation for high quality products, but US automakers make their cars in Canada and M exico, but we still have factories in the United States while Japanese car companies have provided jobs to the US and is why union Thes Hell workers workers in California are being paid for a gas pedal Busted, after all when companies forgein have union contracts their money is going abroad anyway, so what I say that we all need a fair share of everything.
You better watch where your car is done when it is made by an American-made Ford and initially the only US manufacturing that quality cars equal to Japanese companies never thought to do another vehielce in Japan since the Model T because that every nation needs something to stand for them and that is why we need something to take for example the fusion is made in Mexico and spend quality standards if the F150 must be exported the only plant to have international standards is one that is close to London, Ontario in Canada where they make the Crown Vic Mercurey great Marquis and Lincoln Town Car, which is the only Ford plant that could meet the international quality standards even with the Japanese which is why Ford will one day all their cars Canada.
T I would drive a Japanese car if my life depended on it if you do not know why, ask a Chinese or Korean person.
I'll buy an American car when it's as good as my 1995 Camry 2L 2 with 217,000 miles I had to almost a little less than 100 000 of these miles Dashboard still doesn t rattle and several Gen 3 owners Camry I Vee spoke recently, mine has the lowest miles still get 26 mpg and 35 about to take in the old parts emissions 215000 mile services that have been there forever.
I know about American cars, because at some point I would consider t nothing else then the starting pieces from other places than Detroit, and all that is gone down my mind was made when I parked my pride and joy when next to a 96 Camry Coupe and saw the difference just by looking at the seats.
Ford and GM deserves to do what they should have been there for years are, and Ford has certainly earned our company.
GM still missing something with their interiors The new Camaro is a winner and seems to have more personality than the Mustang, I never thought I would say, but it's the use if I can not see the side windows on a poorly lit road Major deal-breaker what happens with sharp edges under the columns of steering gear stick your hand in there, and you will know the G6 what happens with the door interior cheaply made handles on the new Suburbans that when the surface peels, may be sharp enough to cut your hand.
I saw a lot of Japanese American European combos parked in front of people's houses, and I thought maybe I'd do to have a fun car and a cool car.
If I had to buy American, hands down it would be the Ford Fusion AWD is not it really a Mazda 6.
Chrysler can not beat the Challenger magazine for style but I've always thought wise to stay away cars from a company that's been Chrysler Dodge financial problems always seems to produce weak students compared and a stellar member I guess cars that probably excels, and I d bet on 3 5L I would still be able to drive somewhere when the gas reaches 4 50 gallons.
Regarding steel I knew Gen 3 3 5 Camries being involved in several accidents do not match vs car here something more, including a high-speed head on the occupants survived When I was accessories installed on mine, the installer has almost given up because he kept going through locks on the bumper.
Just talked to a guy who has a 400,000 mile Corolla.
And yes Japanese cars built for export or the United States aren t as Japanese cars built in Japan, especially the engine, I was there and understood mailed to that there was more gas costs more off base than on the basis not the same source so a lot of my countrymen have RTG gas based smelled the base off gas does not.
In addition, I would like to see more Australian built its original American cars are Stateside Pontiac GTO, G8 touched and I went.
I think if people start to draw specific comparisons, we lose track of the big picture Let's see this in historical perspective.
There was a time when the world envied the three major US Chrysler, Ford and GM were impressive times when the boys were fascinated by the beauty of the American steel classic cars from the 50, 60, 70 wow Meanwhile at the other Americans have the best production cars in the world were not totally wrong and in this period, it would not be wrong to say that the Japanese have made ridiculously cheap cars that could hold a candle to the American quality and value as well as being excellent on Japanese cars gas at that time, they were great to raise a chuckle in the streets trust me, I remember because my friends and I were always teasing another friend every time he picked us up in his little Honda Civic in the early 80 No boy fell in love with Japanese cars s in the 50, 60, or 70 so, to summarize, here we have the three great fat and rich, living it large in the three decades of the height of their dominance and rightly that would have given jap Anese manufacturer a right opportunity.
Well, it seems that three major three forgot the story of the hare and the tortoise and they paid for it from the 80s In 1988, we bought a Ford Taurus GL This was the biggest mistake ever conducted literally out the lot, three problems were detected the headrest of the front passenger seat wouldn t stay, I can not remember the rest, but they were minor headaches As the years passed, the electric locks were prematurely the engine had major problems requiring 200- 400 to repair at least three times that I remembered the transmission and then went and we had to have it rebuilt the passenger side electric windows stopped working, broken rear defogger and the list continues with smaller more minor stuff, it seems that it wasn t just my Ford, because I started to hear jokes circulating on the Ford was able to nchline be Fix or repair daily Found Dead on the road the printed lemon help guide clearly that the Ford Taurus 88 was one of the many vehicles people should not buy when I sta red in this list, I noticed almost all the cars there were Americans at the same time, in the eighties, the Japanese began to rise They began to acquire a reputation for high quality in addition to fuel efficiency, but the people were still hesitant because the cars were smaller and didn t feel as heavy and robust, leading many to believe that they are not as safe as American cars.
After that point, the tables were turned and through the 90s til now we have seen whiz Toyota past the big three and saw the stock prices of three government US lead rescue plans were discussed Pontiac, a brand with a rich history in racing and in the production is now Oh, how the power of Toyota fallen through a stumbling block but, in the end, it always maintain number one status for a while yet.
Now the reputation of Japanese cars are quite the opposite of what was in the past when they produced Hondas Dinky for budget strapped students It was the Americans who suffer from cheap nickname and I might add, rightly Well yes, I said it had to say What happened to American car companies they have done to themselves mostly ugly producing vehicles that broke and ate up time and people money in the 80s that was so difficult to understand about what customers wanted them to appreciate wanted a car they could proudly lead this burden wouldn t the family budget or lose everyone is the time sitting in the garage give credit for US automakers, they tried with the Ford Taurus and he made an impact, it really made Iacocca in the three m odels cabin forward in LH Great concept cars but so if you have a nice car if you can not count on it to work when you need them they did for themselves the reputation was all ceux- these were unreliable who care.
Then a funny thing happened with some executive power they finally got started doing visually interesting, if not great cars for the average person with an average income to buy a car they could be proud to drive a car that gave the value in terms of what options were available and in terms of economy and people started to pay attention people began to notice that they finally understand ugly is not hip unless that he Sá Subaru WRX, but I digress slowly, we are witnessing the transition now in both GM and Ford Chrysler not so, but I fear what happens.
Yes, I still believe US automakers are playing catch up, but historically it was not too long ago, nobody gave the Japanese a chance at all, so for one person to write off the Big Three should do with the story showed caution, and the story of the hare and the tortoise, as in the real world, the turtle can win.
Personally, my Ford nightmare, I buy a new Ford And although I'll admit, they have great designs and give credit to bounce them, they lost me long ago GM I wish you the best of luck, Toyota and Honda, thank you for the example and slapping sense into the stupid American big three CEO.
For now, I remain a loyal import buyer Lexus, Subaru, Honda If, however, GM proves that its cars are still in the streets 5 years, and in good condition, then maybe I can leave influence, but time will tell.
foreign buying is like betraying your country, why would you send jobs over seas while everone complains about job losses.
I think the main point, besides the MPG questions is that US manufacturers have to earn our hard earned money and not expect just that I could maybe take a bullet for this nation there is no betrayal.
As much as I liked Toyota, I feel, they began to flirt with the expectation that you will buy our product based on our behalf rather than going all out to keep winning our company and there has been a reaction, and they got on fairly quickly Hyundai has come along and has worked hard to earn our business.
As I said before I am always looking for a new American car compares to my 1995 Camry with nearly 220,000 miles on it it gets the same mpg as cobalt when driven from Similarly Honestly, I buy the 1995 Camry, 2005, all other things being equal.
Someone example of the Mustang, and have owned a car smilar in the past, I can agree The problem is, the Mustang is a comparison of apples to oranges I and many owners of foreign cars Would make easy parking this Mustang alongside their Camry, but the dealbreaker for me is that I want the gas tank 18 gallons or 500 mile range when gas prices reached 4 gallons and the ability to drive effortlessly through ice snow with snow tires with a few mods, Camry gets a fresh card and still derives 25 34 mpg or more.
Most American RWD and service type vehicles are obviously good enough to be good, but their inner need to work and again, the example of the Dodge Charger should go all-out to make a real car headlight and you saute about buying the Lexus GS in the same lot used car, in terms of looks, it has high-quality, long-term, and possibly even the additional option that will allow us Turbo Diesel build big, beautiful vehicles looking that we know how to do here and to have the most advanced powerplants same time, we can get to the moon we can have our big cars and big Mpgs too.
Is one of the guys you know who has the most recalled cars is Toyota They had 492 recall campaigns in 2009 compared to 684 campaigns in 2008 was followed by a second position by Ford with 8 campaigns recall Toyota has recalled 6 million vehicles in 2009, they had cars as they have been unexpectedly accelerate Why Because they were too cheap to put a stop to their saftey computer becasue it would cost them additional 1 January 19 per vehicle I work for the seventh largest auto parts supplier in the world for the past 16 years as a guarantee data analyst Every manufacturer has problems, it is not only the American and Japanese vehicles, I will you say that like Honda and Toyota use parts that GM, Ford and Chrysler stopped using there are 5 to 10 years, they are for many reasons the test is already fai t, they should not pay the tooling, and bugs were developed As for technology, the Japanese are behind in terms of features Saftey In 2008, Chrysler has made a comparison of their deisel Jeep Liberty against Toyota Prius gas mileage This is a real test of driving 80 MPH, the same streets at the same time and the entire Jeep 1 mpg better gas mileage than the Toyota as for all of you with your great FOREIGN cars with high miles I'll go back to my 1975 Malibu, 386.254 miles on it when I sold wngine original and trans Then I got a bunch of cars that I fight and crushed, I can not say how they it would have gone Then we can go to my 1991 Chevy pick 318000 when I sold it, still on the original engine, rebuilt trans 285000 was following my 1997 Monte Carlo 3 1 marketed never done anything with 305000 for this car other than normal repairs, tires and brakes so on Then I had my 2004 Monte Carlo 3800 165000 put on it and sold it in 2008 without making any repairs other than tires and brakes now I drive a 2003 Cadillac CTS with 152000 on any major repair knocks on wood as far as the theory of the unsustainable American cars out of the 80s and early 90s last American cars as long, if not longer, and Japanese cars and don t get recalled as much and there are warranty repairs are lower by vehicles produced.
American vs. American, many American cars, the last American cars, American cars roads.
V S, Patterson, LA 70392, США