Vs vs DC5 DC2 EK9
- EK9 - EP3-R - DC5-R - 2006 CTR - R32, R33 and R34 Skylines Body Style - etc.
For starters, every car on your list, with the exception of the Skyline has some form of US currency should therefore be clear that compliance with US safety standards are not an obstacle here, as different variants of these vehicles have already, without suffering any real economic disadvantage If you want to place blame, it would be better with Honda, and the American public as a whole if Honda believed that these cars would be financially viable in the US market, they d be here, plain and simple the reasons for withholding at source the cars may be slightly different for each model, but in the end, it comes down to sales.
American drivers may be safer through better training, learn to drive better, making it more expensive to get a driver's license or several ways.
You are quite correct, although the same can be said for any other country, to varying degrees, however, having safer drivers do not deny the need for safer cars, and I doubt that many people prefer less stringent safety standards for their cars if given the choice.
I would like to have precise statistics on the percentage of deaths in motor vehicle accidents in the United States against Japan and against the United Kingdom, etc. I would bet money that our percentages are still much higher even if we have better safety standards.
Without knowing the exact figures, I would rather not speculate, but is much higher in all likelihood end exaggeration in this case, it is also a difficult and inaccurate compared to here, because there are many factors that influence the mortality statistics of motor vehicles, not just the cars themselves.
Your points are well taken care of and I n start an argument, but I like an intelligent and respectful debate.
You mention that the OEM's decided not to sell the cars on my list becuase it would not be financially viable one reason this is true is because they have not only security certify each car model they sell with NHTSA, but also emissions certify all the cars they sell here with EPA.
It's not like they can crash test of a single EK and be clear with NHTSA and the CX, DX, EX, LX, Si, VP, SiR, VTi, Type R hatch, coupe and sedan approved for all import, they have to crash test every single body styles and I'm sure they also CRASHTEST all trim levels as there are significant differences for different models.
For example, suspensions and body reinforcements on DC2 ITR chassis are very different from one DC2 GSR chassis, which could perform very differently depending on the impacts of ITR test configurations is lower, so before the accident would be different for Honda selling the Acura Integra Type R, they had crash test as a completely separate vehicle, excluding all previous results crashtesting an LS or GS-R same would be true for EK9 or EP3-R, they should have the crash test EK9 separately from EK body style and trim level that Honda Civics previously tested accident.
While Honda had to watch this requirement and recognize that making the EK9 here would cannibalize sales of the ITR DC2 here in North America, and the additional cost of security and EK9 certification programs to US standards, and projected sales they planned to EK9 taken and DC2 combined they realized that to maximize profit, they should sell the DC2-R here, not the EK9, so they didn t.
They decided not to sell the EK9 depending on all these factors.
The same decision process was followed for the PI3-R DC5-R 2006 CTR.
Honda is not only Toyota Chaser has never sold here Mitsubishi Evo didn t sell here until 2003 Subaru WRX didn t sell here until 2002. The list is long.
Your points are well taken care of and I n start an argument, but I like an intelligent and respectful debate.
You mention that the OEM's decided not to sell the cars on my list becuase it would not be financially viable one reason this is true is because they have not only security certify each car model they sell with NHTSA, but also emissions certify all the cars they sell here with EPA.
This is true to the best of my knowledge, but I do not think it is unreasonable to require each model to meet the same standards of safety and minimal emissions makes perfect sense.
It's not like they can crash test of a single EK and be clear with NHTSA and the CX, DX, EX, LX, Si, VP, SiR, VTi, Type R hatch, coupe and sedan approved for all import, they have to crash test each unique body style and I'm sure they also CRASHTEST all trim levels as there are significant differences for different models.
Again, I'm not quite familiar with the nuances of the tests, but I think it's a minimum of each model must pass less than trim levels differ structurally or mechanically, or would otherwise should work differently in practice I'm not sure individual tests would be necessary.
For example, suspensions and body reinforcements on DC2 ITR chassis are very different from one DC2 GSR chassis, which could perform very differently depending on the impacts of ITR test configurations is lower, so before the accident would be different for Honda selling the Acura Integra Type R, they had crash test as a completely separate vehicle, excluding all previous results crashtesting an LS or GS-R same would be true for EK9 or EP3-R, they should have the crash test EK9 separately from EK body style and trim level that Honda Civics previously tested accident.
Yes, I would imagine that true, although again, that doesn t seem unreasonable to keep in mind that Honda is allowed, as far as I am not aware, qualified to submit test data indicating that a vehicle complies with the regulations, I guess that is true for many countries, and that Honda does not have to pay for specific tests in each country a particular car is sold in being the point that most, if not all, of the cost of testing each model has already been committed, whether or not the model will be imported to the United States the additional costs could be in the form of adding reinforcements, visor shock may differ or other equipment, as well as engine tuning, but many of these changes would be similar or identical to those required for the different models of this car already be sold in the United States.
While Honda had to watch this requirement and to recognize that the EK9 here would cannibalize sales of the ITR DC2 here in North America, and then the additional cost of security and EK9 certification programs to US standards, then projected sales they planned to EK9 taken and DC2 combined they realized that to maximize profit, they should sell the DC2-R here, not the EK9, so they didn t.
Yes, you are something, but especially with the discussion of marketing decisions While I don t pretend to know exactly what Honda thought leaders in each decision, it is not so difficult to hypothesize some models could cannibalize sales of existing models or in the Honda or Acura line enough others might simply generate buying interest with the American public to justify the import Tastes can vary greatly depending on the market, and American public has consistently demonstrated that it will not much prefer the types of vehicles that are European or Asian drivers.
Honda is not only Toyota Chaser has never sold here Mitsubishi Evo didn t sell here until 2003 Subaru WRX didn t sell here until 2002. The list is long.
I agree, it certainly is not just Honda There is a long list of vehicles of almost all manufacturers who haven t, and probably never will, reach our shores However, each of them, the factors influencing this decision are certainly not primarily driven by our crash test standards required with perhaps a few notable exceptions.
I think part of the reason cars require additional protection of the accident is the American obsession with driving on vehicles quite frankly size to RIDICULOUSLY mundane things like shopping and deposited the children to school.
If a large truck or SUV or 4x4 or whatever you choose to call it thumps into the side of you, you need all the help you can and im guessing highest proportion gargantuan vehicles driving around your roads mean that you can not ignore the possibility of being hit by one.
Oh, and also, one of my Colorado friends told us the details of what is needed to pass your driving test to the test in a car and that means you're fired for manual wtf.
Oh, and also, one of my Colorado friends told us the details of what is needed to pass your driving test to the test in a car and that means you're fired for manual wtf.
Yes thats true also of Ontario, and I'm sure all of Canada, u pass your test in an automatic car, and u can drive standard sense doesnt do too, but yes I know where I came from his not like here either, lol.
In Maryland, where I got my license at the age of 16, they do care about what kind of car does that you take your driving test in auto or manual mode if you spend certified to drive anything.
door weight ITR didn sell here, they crash-test your driving test.